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brought them income because lance armstrong had the entire spotlight and it was based on doping. >> tyler hamblin's life once said lance armstrong is like donald trump who sees a small grocery store and wants to put them out of business. he soaked up all the sunlight, all the energy, all the money of that sport of that era. >> greg lemond, when i was -- prior to lance armstrong, greg lemond was -- i don't know much about the world of cycling but i remember greg lemond. he had an incredible story. he was an incredible competitor after lance armstrong and lance armstrong, as betty said, went after greg lemond. do you think lance armstrong gets it, bill? >> i think he gets that he should get it, and i think what we're seeing here is he's really struggling with it. what's interesting to me is there's sort of parallel views of this going on. there's a lot of people who are skeptical, but i was reading all the reactions today from jonathan and tyler hamilton and frankie. they have all acknowledged how hard it is just to do what he's done, and frankie in a report today was saying until you sit d
brought them income because lance armstrong had the entire spotlight and it was based on doping. >> tyler hamblin's life once said lance armstrong is like donald trump who sees a small grocery store and wants to put them out of business. he soaked up all the sunlight, all the energy, all the money of that sport of that era. >> greg lemond, when i was -- prior to lance armstrong, greg lemond was -- i don't know much about the world of cycling but i remember greg lemond. he had an...
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>> tyler hamilton gets a phone call. be on a plane tomorrow. we're flying to valencia to do a blood transfusion. that's what happens. >> i want to play you what armstrong said about his personal doping operations. let's listen. >> tyler said in a statement that you and the u.s. postal service cycling team pulled off in his words the most sophisticated, professionalized and successful doping program that the sport has ever seen. was it? >> no. no. and i think he actually said that all of sport has ever seen. and, oprah, it wasn't. it was -- it was definitely professional. and it was definitely smart if you can call it that, but it was very conservative. very risk averse. very aware of what mattered and didn't. >> the only example he could come up with, i guess, of a more sophisticated operation was east germany's olympic operation, i guess, back many, many -- >> '70s and '80s. >> in the '70s and '80s. so compared to a state government operation, it was not that sophisticated. but in the sport of cycling, bill, do you think this was the most soph
>> tyler hamilton gets a phone call. be on a plane tomorrow. we're flying to valencia to do a blood transfusion. that's what happens. >> i want to play you what armstrong said about his personal doping operations. let's listen. >> tyler said in a statement that you and the u.s. postal service cycling team pulled off in his words the most sophisticated, professionalized and successful doping program that the sport has ever seen. was it? >> no. no. and i think he actually...
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as we say in the book "the secret race" that i wrote with his lieutenant tyler hamilton. when you have a small medical refrigerate northe closet of your home that he was sharing with sheryl crow, when you are dealing with a really sophisticated italian doctor and depositing millions in secret swiss bank accounts, that counts as pretty sophisticated in most people's books. this sophistication wasn't so much in the precise substance they were using, although they were using, clearly, some pretty advanced stuff. it was in the way in which they wielded it. and it was the way in which they used their power. their economic power. but most of their political connections to the people and power in the sport. to maximize their use. and that was -- that was really where they excelled. incredibly sophisticated. when he said it would take you a long time -- it would take him a long time to explain it, that's true. it was like this james bond program. >> where is it that you feel that he was not fully honest? was it this part or something snels could have been a bunch but where was th
as we say in the book "the secret race" that i wrote with his lieutenant tyler hamilton. when you have a small medical refrigerate northe closet of your home that he was sharing with sheryl crow, when you are dealing with a really sophisticated italian doctor and depositing millions in secret swiss bank accounts, that counts as pretty sophisticated in most people's books. this sophistication wasn't so much in the precise substance they were using, although they were using, clearly,...
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he heard a bit from tyler hamilton, he and daniel coyle have co-written "the secret race: inside the tour de france race." "doping cover-ups and winning at all costs. i spoke with daniel coyle along with espn analyst. what i don't understand is why armstrong is doing this now. just a few months ago, he had a chance to avoid lifetime banishment. u.s. ada invited him to come clean to be part of the solution. he turned them down flat. what happened between then and now? what changed? >> this is a perfect way into the way lance's brain works, he's very good at looking at complex situations and looking at them in a binary way. it's not about being consistent with him. it's about winning and that brain is really built for that. this point you figure the best path forward was to go to oprah. that's what he's doing. the problem that he faces is that you can win the tour de france but it's hard to win a confession. that has to do with genuine feeling. it has to do with contrition. >> juliette, you were saying the most important thing to remember is that armstrong is an athlete, that he's not
he heard a bit from tyler hamilton, he and daniel coyle have co-written "the secret race: inside the tour de france race." "doping cover-ups and winning at all costs. i spoke with daniel coyle along with espn analyst. what i don't understand is why armstrong is doing this now. just a few months ago, he had a chance to avoid lifetime banishment. u.s. ada invited him to come clean to be part of the solution. he turned them down flat. what happened between then and now? what...
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you heard a bit from tyler hamilton there. he and daniel coyle have co-written "the secret race: inside the hidden world of the tour de france, doping, cover-ups, and winning at all costs." i spoke with daniel coyle along with espn analyst roger cossack and "new york times" sportswriter juliet mckerr. >> daniel, what i don't understand really is why armstrong is doing this now. because just a few months ago he had a chance to avoid lifetime banishment. the u.s.a.d.a. had invited him to come clean to be part of the solution. he turned them down flat. so what happened between then and now? what changed? >> this is a perfect lens into the way lance's brain works. he's really good at figuring out complex situations, looking at them in a very binary way and figuring out a path forward. it's not about being consistent with him. it's about winning. and that brain is really built for that. so at this point he figured the best path forward was to go to oprah. and that's what he's doing. but the problem that he faces is that you can win
you heard a bit from tyler hamilton there. he and daniel coyle have co-written "the secret race: inside the hidden world of the tour de france, doping, cover-ups, and winning at all costs." i spoke with daniel coyle along with espn analyst roger cossack and "new york times" sportswriter juliet mckerr. >> daniel, what i don't understand really is why armstrong is doing this now. because just a few months ago he had a chance to avoid lifetime banishment. the u.s.a.d.a....
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have to go probably deep into the top 50 you know, to get to somebody who was not on something, i know tyler hamilton on our book describes just presuming everybody pretty much everybody was on something, he figures 80 to 90 percent. >> rose: 80 to 90 percent? >> that's right. >> rose: and how good was lance armstrong without doping? not good he did the race four times and actually out in that we know he started doping in the mid pain nineties it is hard tol how much was natural, and that's the problem with dopinit dissorts the, distorts the playing field, se not the kind of athlete that would win the tour, he was the wrong size, he had the wrong strength, but doping distorts it and you are creating sort of a frankenstein athlete and armstrong was the best at that process and the best at the wild west, but in terms of would he have won the tour ever as a clean athlete? the answer is almost certainly no. >> rose: do you agree with that, david? >> i agree with that. >> rose: he never would have won? >> it is hard to know for sure but i agree with what dan said he doesn't pithe typical mold of
have to go probably deep into the top 50 you know, to get to somebody who was not on something, i know tyler hamilton on our book describes just presuming everybody pretty much everybody was on something, he figures 80 to 90 percent. >> rose: 80 to 90 percent? >> that's right. >> rose: and how good was lance armstrong without doping? not good he did the race four times and actually out in that we know he started doping in the mid pain nineties it is hard tol how much was...